Thursday, April 22, 2010

The Connections! The Connections!

I do so love posts and comments that trigger connections that become other posts and comments. My last post about April being poetry month fired up Cooper to post entries about poetry at Wonderland or Not. She, in turn, has written something that fired me up - and hence this post!

When the connections are about other connections - literary in this case - I am really happy.

In Ashes and Waste Lands, Cooper "opines" about T.S.Eliot's The Waste Land and reminisces about reading it with all of Eliot's notes interspersed. I, too, remember studying the poem and wading through all of Eliot's many notes.

In the first note, Eliot recognizes the work of Jessie L.Weston, which he claims contributed greatly to the poem:

Not only the title, but the plan and a good deal of the incidental symbolism of the poem were suggested by Miss Jessie L. Weston's book on the Grail legend: From Ritual to Romance (Macmillan). Indeed, so deeply am I indebted, Miss Weston's book will elucidate the difficulties of the poem much better than my notes can do; and I recommend it (apart from the great interest of the book itself) to any who think such elucidation of the poem worth the trouble. To another work of anthropology I am indebted in general, one which has influenced our generation profoundly; I mean The Golden Bough; I have used especially the two volumes Adonis, Attis, Osiris. Anyone who is acquainted with these works will immediately recognize in the poem certain references to vegetation ceremonies.
Weston's book is complex and interesting. She claims that Grail legends are based on ancient fertility myths. Both Weston and Eliot were influenced by Sir James Frazer's work The Golden Bough.

Jessie Weston's book also makes an appearance in the 1979 film Apocalypse Now. The film, set in Vietnam and Cambodia during the Vietnam war, is based on Joseph Conrad's novel Heart of Darkness, set in late nineteenth-century Africa.

Weston's book and Frazer's appear very briefly in the movie, as the camera shows the quarters of Kurtz, who has set himself up as a god in a remote Cambodian village (much as his progenitor has in central Africa in Conrad's novel).

Kurtz reads from Eliot's poem "The Hollow Men," and has background works for The Waste Land on his bookshelf. Comment on Kurtz's psyche? on the human condition? merely on Kurtz as an educated man? on Eliot?


Specualtion is great fun, but it can't beat, for me, those great connections, literary or otherwise.


Thanks, Cooper, for triggering this digression!










11 comments:

Trulyfool said...

These connections do interest me, remembering The Golden Bough's being mentioned in any number of lit classes, never really 'getting' why Eliot -- or anyone -- felt so obsessive about linking modern writing to deep, traditions.

I have some idea now, though I attribute Eliot's (and Pound's and Joyce's and so on's) brilliance to their connecting words and finding rhythms that slide and kick and click into place.

Writing, especially poetry, is an 'ear' thing. Conceptual meaning and accessible imagery count a lot, are large parts of the thing's worth, but 'ear' is prime.

ChrisJ said...

Trulyfool,

I mostly agree, although I have a strong love of imagery. But I do hear rhythms all the time - someone's sentence will mimic a familiar line of poetry and I can't rest until I remember what it is. Drives me nuts at times.

ChrisJ said...

Trulyfool,

I mostly agree, although I have a strong love of imagery. But I do hear rhythms all the time - someone's sentence will mimic a familiar line of poetry and I can't rest until I remember what it is. Drives me nuts at times.

cooper said...

It's cadence, rhythm, the timing - be it in poetry or prose - that hooks me.

ChrisJ said...

cooper,

One of my professors said to listen as one would to some blues-first just enjoy the experience, the sound.

lifeshighway said...

Off to find a copy of From Ritual to Romance.

ChrisJ said...

Cheri,

I'm sure you'll enjoy it; I was quite fascinated.

Owen Gray said...

Sound can be hypnotic. I'm thinking of Poe's "The Raven" or "The Bells."

As logical arguments, both poems are rather silly. But the rhythm and the rhyme cast a spell.

ChrisJ said...

Owen,

People often quote "The Raven" and don't know what it is they are quoting - the lines just stick.

One of The Guys said...

The circuitous path is the longest, but the most interesting.

Your post reflects what is great about blogging. Sharing ideas. Sparking new ideas. Supporting one another.

Love it! Have a great Saturday. I'm up way too early today. (I've already been up for an hour!)

ChrisJ said...

OTG,

Early morning is nice sometimes - quiet and peaceful (maybe the kids are still asleep?).